Lake of Fire… Our Father does not torture people forever!

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Lake of Fire

 

I debated someone quite a few years ago, and because of it, I had to dig deeper than I ever did before. I’m thankful I did. It solidified it in my mind, more than it was before.

 

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever

 

Satan’s sentence, judgment, punishment is forever and ever.

 

The word ‘forever’ and ever in the Greek is:

G165

aionahee-ohn’

From the same as G104; properly an age; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): – age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the, while the) {world} (began, without end). Compare G5550.

 

Also Past“, this would go back to the beginning. If ones sentence, punishment goes back to the beginning, is one tortured from the beginning on? God forbid! He would not do such a thing. God is fair and loving. But if one is annihilated, destroyed, they are wiped out of the book of the living, it as if they were never created. That would be more loving than to torture a soul for all eternity.

 

 

Look at this verse:

Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

 

Blot out‘ in the Greek:

G1813

exaleiphoex-al-i’-fo

From G1537 and G218; to smear out, that is, obliterate (erase tears, figuratively pardon sin): – blot out, wipe away.}

 

 

Obliterate’ in the English dictionary:

To do away with completely so as to leave no trace.2. To wipe out, rub off, or erase (writing or other markings). 3. Medicine To remove completely (a body organ or part), as by surgery, disease, or radiation.}

 

This word “exaleiphoÌ” is used again in this verse:

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 

The words ‘wipe away’ means to blot out, to smear out, obliterate. He wipes away our tears for there is no memory of our loved ones who didn’t make it. They are obliterated, as if God never, ever created them. The punishment for those who didn’t make it, goes all the way back to the beginning of when they were created. They are erased totally and completely. So in a sense they were never created, and if they were never created, then there is no memory of them to cry over.

 

Also in the above verse it says no more sorrow, crying or pain. Now that could not be true if there were those who were suffering for all eternity. If God’s word is true, there cannot be any contradictions. He either destroys fully or he doesn’t.

 

Some verses that mention the second death:

Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death

 

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

 

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

Death means- “to die”, dead.

 

The first death is death of the flesh, the second death is death of the soul.

 

Death here cannot mean two different things. It cannot mean death for the flesh but eternal life albeit suffering for the soul. It either means death or it does not.

 

Perish:

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

 

Perish” means-“to destroy fully”

 

Psa 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

 

Consume away‘ means-“to end, (cease, be finished, perish)

 

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

To go into the lake of fire is total destruction of the soul, blotted out, from the beginning, as if never existed.

 

 

All through God’s word, the fate of the wicked is that they will perish, die, be destroyed fully. God’s word flows beautifully! There cannot be any contradictions for his word to be true. So when there seems to be contradictions, it is not him but man, with his interpretations.

 

The fate of the wicked is “death”, not eternal life. If they are tortured for all eternity, they are still living (eternal life), are they not? We serve a very, very loving Father. A loving Father would not torture some of his children for all eternity. God is a consuming fire. If he can create a soul, he can certainly blot it out.

 

AGAIN:

Rev. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

The TORMENT is FOREVER. The JUDGMENT is FOREVER. The SMOKE Goes up FOREVER and EVER.

 

When a MATCH burns (Where does the smoke go)? How long will it be smoke? Even if we can’t see it, the chemical change has taken place and it is still smoke.

 

The LAKE of FIRE is the SECOND DEATH. Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

 

This is not going to change. God stated it and it is so.

 

The smoke going up will be forever. Once this chemical change takes place (It will be as such), and satan and his followers shall be Erased (BLOTTED OUT).

 

Tormented day and Night means (Eternally) Unending. This SMOKE will be what is left. The SOUL will be erased. When a SOUL is BLOTTED OUT, it means just that, blotted out:

Psa 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

 

Blotted’ in the Hebrew is:

H4229

machah

maw-khaw’

A primitive root; properly to stroke or rub; by implication to erase; also to smooth (as if with oil), that is, grease or make fat; also to touch, that is, reach to: – abolish, blot out, destroy, full of marrow, put out, reach unto, X utterly, wipe (away, out).

 

 

Blotted‘ from the BDB concordance:

H4229

machah

BDB Definition: 1) to wipe, wipe out 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to wipe 1a2) to blot out, obliterate 1a3) to blot out, exterminate 1b) (Niphal) 1b1) to be wiped out 1b2) to be blotted out 1b3) to be exterminated 1c) (Hiphil) to blot out (from memory) 2) (Qal) to strike 3) (Pual) full of marrow (participle) Part of Speech: verb A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root Same Word by TWOT Number: 1178, 1179, 1181c

 

If a SOUL is Blotted OUT, If they are not written in the BOOK of the LIVING (That means WHAT)? They are DEAD. This is not speaking of the FLESH. (The flesh is GONE). This is speaking of ONES SOUL. It is as if it never existed. Remember All tears will be Wiped. No memory of these peoples, (Shall exist). (RE: Rev 21: -ON)

 

The fire shall devour satan’s SOUL. He is not flesh. (Nor is anyone at this point in time). The flesh is long gone here. The FIRE from HEAVEN, (OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE), shall do this.

 

The death of the SOUL (Is just that). satan is the son of Perdition. The son sentanced to Perish and DIE. He is not FLESH. This is Death of HIS “SOUL-BODY”.

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

 

When our SINS are Blotted OUT, They are Erased as if they never took place. The same goes for a WICKED SOUL. satan is going to be Turned to ASHES. This is FACT.

 

Salvation is for life eternal, not salvation from torment for those who cannot die. With the reasoning of people being tortured forever and ever, it would mean that they also have eternal life. The only difference would be that they are tortured.

 

 

God makes it clear what happens to the wicked:

Psa 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

 

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

Again:

Perish means “to destroy fully”

 

Romans 6:23 “for the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord”.

 

This is not talking about the death of the flesh, for all flesh dies. It is talking about the death of the soul.

 

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

 

satan will be devoured with fire- (God is a consuming fire: Heb_12:29 For our God is a consuming fire. )

Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

 

Devour’ means to “burn up, consume, devour.

 

 

Some teach that when evil men are cast into this same lake of fire they are tormented by it but not abolished or destroyed. If the wages of sin are death, then that debt cannot be paid because death is not death but torment forever.

 

God says—destroy, perish, destruction of the soul.

 

Man says—- eternal suffering in fire but still alive, seperation..ect.

 

Man’s teachings do not fit with what God says. I will chose God’s words over man’s. God will never lead us falsely.

 

 

Concerning ‘Their Worm Dieth Not’…which has been used by this one pastor, to say that people, souls, don’t die.

 

Mark 9:42-48 42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

 

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

 

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

 

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

 

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

 

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

 

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. (KJV)

 

If we look it at the scriptures literally “their worm dieth not”. Does this mean the worm has eternal life albeit in an everlasting fire? No, of course not.

 

Worm=maggot, crimson grub, prime meaning “devour”

 

So the contrast here is that those who follow our Father have life everlasting, and those who don’t are like rotted corpses with worms-the worms do not die…meaning the punishment is eternal, meaning eternal death of the soul. It is forever. The fire won’t be quenched=God will not repent from His anger towards those who follow satan. They will be no more-ever. God will not turn back on His judgment. That is why it can’t be “quenched” They can not be release from this eternal punishment of death.

 

People are not going to BURN like a PIECE of BACON while we are Extremely happy in the eternity.

 

WHAT KIND OF A FATHER (GOD) do we serve??

 

A loving one.

 

All praise goes to our Father…I pray, open eyes, open ears, In Yahshua’s precious name