Why We Are Here

We were all with the Father before we ever entered these flesh bodies. Just as most are with their parents when they were born, so were we, when we were first created. And there is a reason why we are here in the flesh.

We were all with our Father, in our spiritual bodies…. yes spiritual. Our Father is spiritual and so are we. I’m talking about the first earth age, the time when SATAN rebelled and deceived a third of our Father’s children. Instead of our Father destroying those children, for He does love them, He loves all of His children, He destroyed that age. Then this age began, for each soul to be born innocent of woman, in the flesh, having no memory of what they did in the first earth age, to make up our mind who we are going to love….. either God or Satan.

The bible states this, if you’re willing to dig and to search out what our Father says, not man… Check everything out for yourself.

Rev 13:8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Don’t read over this verse! There is a wealth of information, a wealth of knowledge and wisdom within that verse.

All will worship the Antichrist, except those whose names are written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

This is not saying they are the only ones saved…many will wake up and come out of Babylon at that time. You can read of it in Rev 7, not withstanding all those who passed on before while believing in Christ.

To get a better idea, or to see it more clearly, we need to go to the Greek.

The word “foundation” in the Greek:





From G2598; a deposition, that is, founding; figuratively conception: – conceive, foundation.

It comes from the Greek word:



From G2596 and G906; to throw down: – cast down, lay

World” in the Greek:





Probably from the base of G2865; orderly arrangement, that is, decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]): – adorning, world.


Foundation of the world‘ is speaking of that orderly arrangement of the first earth age and satan’s overthrow. It is certainly not speaking about this age. For this age, the earth was in a state of ruin, and our Father shows us this. Go to Genesis 1

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Verse 1 doesn’t state when. God states He created the heaven and the earth, period. There is a vast amount of time between verse 1 and verse 2

In between those 2 verses are when the dinosaurs were on earth and when satan’s rebellion occurred.  Science is correct that our Earth is 4.5 Billion years old.

Verse 2, you need to go to the Hebrew

Was‘ in the Hebrew:





A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): – beacon, X altogether, be (-come,

Without form‘ in the Hebrew:





From an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: – confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.

Void‘ in the Hebrew:





From an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, that is, (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin: – emptiness, void.

Concerning verse 2, it is taught by many that it is speaking of the creation of the Earth. But as you can clearly see in the Hebrew, the Earth became a state of undistinguishable ruin, a worthless thing.


Now, stop and think for a moment. If God just created the earth in verse 2, why would the earth be in a state of ruin? Truth is, He didn’t create it that way, it ‘became’ that way.

Our Father would not create something in such a state. He even states it in Isaiah:

Isa 45:18  For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.


You can read of the destruction of the first Earth age in Jeremiah 4:

Jer 4:22  For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Jer 4:23  I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

This verse goes back to Gen 1:2  “Tohu Va Bohu


Jer 4:24  I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

Jer 4:25  I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

Jer 4:26  I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

God is calling his children foolish… a little bit on the stupid side. He’s warning them, because of their stubbornness and idolatry, that he shook the earth once before and he is going to do it again…as He has stated in other places

Heb_12:26  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

Jeremiah 4 is not speaking of Noah’s flood. During the flood of Noah’s time, there were animals aboard the ark, people aboard the ark and a dove was able to bring back an Olive leaf.

The flood of Jeremiah, there were NO BIRDS, NO FRUITFUL PLACE, NO CITIES, NO MAN 

Yes, there were cities in the first earth age. We find remnants of them, yet archeologists are hard-pressed to explain it, along with the prehistoric tools they’ve found… or the human-shaped footprints along side dinosaur tracks as in Paluxy River. Yet with all these findings, they’ve found no human remains dating back that far. Why? We were in spiritual bodies…. Spiritual bodies have a mass, only made of a different substance. It’s clear we were able to go in between dimensions then, but at the Katabole (satan’s overthrow), that was no longer allowed, hence there was no man…. Yes, ‘man’ is used for spiritual beings…..The.Arch Angel Gabriel, in the Hebrew means ‘Man of God

This is also why the fallen angels are doomed to destruction. They left their place of habitation (heaven) and came to earth (the second earth age, the one we are in now) and instead of waiting to be born through women, they seduced women:

Jud_1:6  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Back to the first earth age, go to the book of Job

Job 40:15  Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

Job 40:16  Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the muscles of his belly.

Job 40:17  He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

Job 40:18  His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

Job 40:19  He is the chief of the ways of GOD: He That made him can make His sword to approach unto him.

Job 40:20  Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

It is clear to any child that the description here is speaking of dinosaurs… the behemoth is not an elephant or rhinoceros…. they have some short little tails. This creature has a HUGE TAIL, like a cedar!!

And don’t read over ‘behemoth, which I MADE WITH THEE‘.

Yes, we’ve existed a long time!! I’m not talking about reincarnation…. We’ve never stopped existing since the time God created us… whether we are in a spiritual body or flesh body, we never died, we are still the same, with the same soul, regardless what body we inhabit.

The dinosaurs became extinct because of the destruction of the first earth age

True North is 90 miles off of magnetic North because of the shaking of the earth

A frozen Woolly Mammoth was found in Siberia with buttercups in it’s stomach. At this time, Buttercups can’t grow there. But in the first earth age they did… The axis of our earth was straight and a firmament surrounded the earth…. We find remains of many non-North American animals, like we have today,  at Ashfall, Nebraska. You can Google all of it.

God shook the whole earth because of His fierce anger at satan’s rebellion.


Rev 12:1  And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:2  And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Rev 12:3  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 12:4  And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Take notice, it happened in heaven

Woman” in the Greek is





Probably from the base of G1096; a woman; specifically a wife: – wife, woman.

She is also symbolic of Mother Israel

:2 Birth of a new age

:3 In heaven, the dragon i.e. satan using the same MO as he will use this age (Rev 13) this age though, there are 10 crowns

:4 satan deceived a third of God’s children…. yes, we are the stars. We were with God in our spiritual bodies, in the first earth age.


The “stars” of heaven are the “sons of God”. This “old dragon” caused one third of all of God’s creation to follow him. One third of God’s children, are all those in their “soul bodies”, are also called “angelic souls”. No my friend, they do not have wings

What it is saying here, is through Satan’s fall in the first earth age, he drew one third of God’s children to him. He caused them to fall, and they worshiped him, and believed in him to be their God. That is also his desire also for this age; to cause you and I, the children of God, to worship him.

More on SATAN’S rebellion

In Eze 28, God identifies satan and tells us what is going to happen to satan. Satan is the ‘son of perdition’. Perdition means to perish, to die. Satan was never flesh, but spiritual and his sentence is death.

In the first few verses, satan will be referred as the ‘prince of Tyrus’

Tyrus means ‘rock‘ in the Hebrew

Their rock is not our Rock (Duet 32)

Our Rock is Christ, not the fake rock …satan, the Antichrist

Title “Prince” is after satan’s fall

The second part is before Satan’s fall, when he is called the King of Tyrus

Eze 28:2  Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God

God refers to satan as a man, though he was never flesh….think on the number of a man (Rev 13)

SATAN wanted to be God

Eze 28:3  Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

That’s how sharp he is…… Look at how he tried to tempt Christ in the wilderness. He used scripture, but he twisted it to where it became a lie

Never argue with satan, nor underestimate him.

Eze 28:4  With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures

Eze 28:5  By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:


Satan is so proud of himself. Pride is what took him down. He loved himself more than God and the children

Eze 28:6  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;

satan wants to be God and this is where the great controversy comes in.

The King of Tyrus, before his fall- this was in the first earth age.

Eze 28:12  Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Eze 28:13  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Eze 28:14  Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Eze 28:15  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Eze 28:16  By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

God made satan the full pattern. Satan earned it. God never does anything or gives anything, to anyone, if it wasn’t earned. God is fair!

SATAN’S job, which he earned, was to protect the Mercy Seat (as described in Exodus)

God had set Satan upon the Holy Mountain of God…….satan earned it and he was good at that time and he walked in the midst of the stones of fire….. SATAN was right there at the altar of God.

This Cherubim  (SATAN), after protecting the Mercy Seat, wanted to sit on it…he wanted to be God

This is where SATAN fell in the first earth age, and why God had to destroy it, and bring this age into being.

There was a catastrophic event which destroyed the dinosaurs . It was when God destroyed that age.

Now, this earth age is about 12 to 14 thousand years old, though the earth itself is billions of years old.

From Adam till now has been about 6,000 years,

This is what caused God’s fierce anger as written in Jer 4

We were with our Father before we ever entered these flesh bodies

Joh 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:4  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?

Joh 3:5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Born “again”

Again” in the Hebrew





From G507; from above; by analogy from the first; by implication anew: – from above, again, from the beginning (very first), the top.

We all came from our Father. We were with Him before we entered these flesh bodies at conception… We were all born from above, unlike the fallen angels that left their place of habitation and came here de’jure. (Jude). Instead of waiting to be born, to pass through this flesh age, to decide who they would love, God or satan…. they came down defacto and seduced women. (Gen 6)

“born of water’ it’s the bag of water surrounding the fetus….and Spirit, that would be the spirit of Christ, or the Holy Spirit. If you’re not in Christ, you do not have eternal life abiding in you… your soul  is not quickened- made alive….

Even God, himself, took on a flesh body and was born of flesh. He will not ask us to do something He will not do Himself:

Heb 2:14  Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

He ‘likewise’ took part of the same… Same what? Being born in the flesh. He could be the only perfect sacrifice for our sins and by doing so, He defeated satan…..for if you repent and believe upon Christ, death, the lake of fire, the blotting out of souls, has no power over you.

Our true home is with our Father, in that spiritual dimension:

Ecc 12:6  Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

Ecc 12:7  Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

We came from God and we go back to God.

Paul states we have 2 bodies. A Celestial body and a Terrestrial body…and with his analogy of a seed, shows the Celestial 9spiritual body dwells inside our terrestrial (flesh) body

1Co 15:35  But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

1Co 15:36  Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

1Co 15:37  And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

The moment we die, we step out of these flesh bodies as we are in our spiritual bodies at that time.

1Co 15:50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1Co 15:51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

God placed Adam’s ‘breath of life’ body into Adam’s flesh body:

Gen 2:7  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

God placed in the man a soul, breath of life body… without it, Adam would have remained an empty shell with no life

I know some think we didn’t exist until conception, but this is not true.


Read this verse carefully:

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


“Let us”… God, in this verse, is Elohim, title of Creator. It can also mean God and the angels..

I’ve heard many say that our Father was talking to Himself, but this didn’t sit well with me. And, when you take into account the whole of God’s Word, it doesn’t fit.

God is speaking to the angels, His children.

God set out to make man (mankind), exactly the way He and the angels look.

Image” in the Hebrew:


From an unused root meaning to shade; a phantom, that is, (figuratively) illusion, resemblance; hence a representative figure, especially an idol: – image, vain shew.


Likeness” in the Hebrew:


From H1819; resemblance; concretely model, shape; adverbially like: – fashion, like (-ness, as), manner, similitude.

“Image” and “likeness” only refers only to outward form, not to attributes. So He afterward took human form in order to redeem (Joh_1:14).- God, Himself, took on a flesh body in His own likeness.


And this verse:

Gen 2:1  Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

‘Host’ in the Hebrew


צבאה    צבא

tsâbâ’  tsebâ’âh

tsaw-baw’, tseb-aw-aw’

From H6633; a mass of persons (or figurative things), especially regularly organized for war (an army); by implication a campaign, literally or figuratively (specifically hardship, worship): – appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, company, host, service, soldiers, waiting upon, war (-fare).

A mass of persons…..Each on waiting of pass through the flesh…… An Army….We are in a spiritual war…that is why we are to wear the gospel armor (EPH 6) The controversy continues from the first earth age. All souls are ready to pass through this earth age, in the flesh….. We must be born from above and not like the fallen angels that refused to be born of flesh, but instead came down and seduced women

Jer 1:5  Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

‘Knew” in the Hebrew:





A primitive root; to know (properly to ascertain by seeing); used in a great variety of senses, figuratively, literally, euphemistically and inferentially (including observation, care, recognition; and causatively instruction, designation, punishment, etc.): – acknowledge, acquaintance (-ted with), advise, answer, appoint, assuredly, be aware, [un-] awares, can [-not], certainly, for a certainty, comprehend, consider, X could they, cunning, declare, be diligent, (can, cause to) discern, discover, endued with, familiar friend, famous, feel, can have, be [ig-] norant, instruct, kinsfolk, kinsman, (cause to, let, make) know, (come to give, have, take) knowledge, have [knowledge], (be, make, make to be, make

Before God formed him in the belly he know him.  It doesn’t say, he knew of him, or he was a thought…… God knew him, knew his soul in the first earth age. And God sanctified him. Why? God is not a respecter of persons and doesn’t play favorites. Jeremiah earned it. Earned it when? The first earth age. Certainly not while he was in the womb!

Then we look at Jacob and Esau

Rom 9:10  And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;

Rom 9:11  (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

Rom 9:12  It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

Rom 9:13  As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Rom 9:14  What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

Our Father doesn’t arbitrarily pick people to hate…and he doesn’t hate someone before they do no wrong. What kind of God do we serve?  We serve a loving and fair God. God did not hate the babe that did nothing wrong, but it was the soul our Father hated. Our Father knew what kind of soul was inside Esau, what he did in the first earth age.

That doesn’t mean Esau can’t have salvation this age…..that’s what this age is about….. salvation! Each soul is offered the opportunity of salvation.


God foreknew all of us. If he foreknew us, then he knows which one of us he can trust with a certain job.

Certain ones that  he foreknew he predestined, called, and justified. This means he chose them before this age; he called them before this age; and he justified them before this age. It was when he foreknew them, (in the first earth age), that they were justified.

The word justified means innocent. They were found innocent in the first age. Why were they found innocent? Well, God destroyed that age when Satan caused a rebellion. Satan wanted to be God and he tried to take over. Satan caused a third of God’s children to follow him in his rebellion. So the ones who were found innocent obviously did not join in Satan’s rebellion. Because they were found innocent, God will make sure they come to salvation in this age. They had already earned it when they stood against Satan. All others of freewill also have a choice to receive salvation; but for those who were predestined to do God’s work, because they were justified in the first earth age, God will make sure they come to the truth in this age and that they will know what their purpose is.

The word “called” in the Greek is “kletos”, it means- [invited, i.e. appointed, or (spec.) a saint:- called.]  God appointed them before they were born; they were and are considered saints before they are ever born because of what they did in the first earth age. These are the Elect of God. These were the patriarchs of the Old Testament, also the prophets of God, the Disciples, those who have passed God’s deeper truth down through time, and those who will stand against the Antichrist. These are people who have shown themselves approved in the first earth age. God knows he can trust them to do their job, which they are called to do in this age.

Go to Ephesians 1:4-:5, Paul speaks of the predestined as being chosen in the first earth age. It reads, “

:4 as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.

Paul says that they were chosen before the foundation of the world. The word “foundation” is the Greek word “katabole” or the overthrow.

This was Satan’s overthrow, the destruction of the first earth age.

These people were chosen before Satan’s overthrow, before the foundation of the world. They were chosen in the first earth age. They were predestined to have salvation from the Lord. This is because they have already earned it. Again, this is not to say that all other cannot have salvation. Salvation is open to all who will receive it. Everyone has freewill to either accept or reject God’s saving plan. But for the Elect, God will make sure that they come into salvation. They’ve earned it, God sent them here to do a job, and he will make sure that they do not lose what they have already earned.

Also go to Psalm 104. The first 9 verses speak of the world age before and the beginning of this age. It reads,

:1 “Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.

:2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment:”


The light is God’s truth, his word.

In Genesis, you see God separated the light from the darkness.

This was before the sun and the moon were shown in the heaven. This was not the light from the sun. This was not day and night as we know it. He was separating his truth from Satan’s lies. This took place after Satan’s overthrow. Darkness symbolizes Satan or his lies. In verse 1 here, there was only light mentioned, there is no darkness. God is speaking of the first earth age when it was still perfect.

Continue with verse 2,

“who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:

:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind”:,

meaning he is able to move in and out of the clouds.

:4 “Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:”

God is a consuming fire. His fire is his truth. In Eze. 28, It speaks of Satan walking among the fiery stones. Satan was among the altar of God. He knew God’s truth, but because of his pride, he tried to take over.

These ministers are ministers of fire, meaning they have God’s deeper truth in them. These ministers were in the first earth age. God is speaking of the first earth age, before the “katabole” in these 4 verses.

:5 “Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.”

God created the earth to be inhabited forever.

:6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.

:7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.”

This took place because of Satan’s overthrow. This is when the world was void and without form; and water was covering the earth, (Genesis 1:2), God did not create it this way; it became this way. So here God is speaking of the beginning of this age, the second earth age.

:8 “They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.

:9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.”

This means that he will never again destroy the earth age with water. So, I hope you can see that these people, or ministers of fire where chosen in the first earth age.

In 1 Kings19:18, Elijah is the only prophet left, he says “there’s no one left but me Lord”. But God tells him, :18 “Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal and every mouth which hath not kissed him.”

This is mentioned again in Romans 11:3-:4, “Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.”

What God is telling Elijah, is that, he has 7,000 people set aside or reserved for himself. The Elect are the set-aside ones. They did not, and will not bow a knee to Baal. Baal is symbolic of false religions or Idolatry, or to be more exact, the worship of the “Antichrist” or “Satan”. Worshipping the Antichrist is the ultimate act of Idolatry. These 7,000 did not worship Satan before and they will not worship him when he appears as the Antichrist. Now, compared to the population of the earth, 7,000 are not a great number. The elect are not many, but with God’ help, they will stand and defeat the “Antichrist” or “Satan”. The number 7 in the Bible means “spiritual completeness”. God is showing that his plan is complete with the people he has chosen, which are needed to defeat Satan, with God’s help. They do not do it on their own. God works through them.

In Revelation 11, you can read about the two witnesses which are the two main people elected by God. God says,

:3 “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the god of the earth.”

Take notice, they are standing before God, meaning they were in heaven when this was written. They are spiritual beings that will be on earth at the time of the Antichrist. They are the anointed ones, for olive oil is what is used for anointing, and God calls them “the two olive trees”. And the two candlesticks are the two churches that Christ was pleased with in Rev. chapter 2 and 3, they are the church of Smyrna and the church of Philadelphia. The two witnesses go before the Elect. They will lead the Elect.

:5 “And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies.”

This fire is God’s truth. God’s truth will devour the lies of the enemy.

We all have a chance at salvation in this age. We are all born innocent, with no memory of the first earth age. God will judge us for how we live our lives now, not how we behaved in the first earth age. Some of are predestined to salvation because they earned it in the first earth age; and all the rest have freewill. They have the freedom to make up their mind whom they will follow, either God or Satan. The Elect were sent here to help the rest of God’s children. Jesus tells his disciples that, “If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world,” (John 15:19).

Jesus is telling them that they were chosen out of the world or “kosmos”. The word “world” does not mean the earth as a globe; it is not talking about the soil or the land. The word “world” is “kosmos”. It means an orderly arrangement. Jesus is saying that they were chosen out of that orderly arrangement of the world, that orderly time period. That was not this age, for in Genesis 1:2 it says, the earth became void and without form, meaning the earth became an undistinguishable ruin. So this age started in a state of ruin. The disciples where chosen in that first, orderly, age. They were not chosen in this age.

2Pe 3:6  Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

First earth age.

World” in the Greek G2889




Probably from the base of G2865; orderly arrangement, that is, decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]): – adorning, world.

“Overflowed with water”: Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

2Pe 3:7  But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2Pe 3:10  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

God is a consuming fire….

“Elements” in the Greek-





Neuter of a presumed derivative of the base of G4748; something orderly in arrangement, that is, (by implication) a serial (basal, fundamental, initial) constituent (literally), proposition (figuratively): – element, principle, rudiment.

Bullingers note*

 elements. See Gal_1:4, Gal_1:3.

melt = be dissolved. Greek. luo, to loose. Compare App-174.***

Gal 1:4  Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father

“World” in the Greek: G165




From the same as G104; properly an age; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): – age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the, while the) world (began, without end). Compare G5550.

Ages……This age, the second age, when Christ returns..the evil rudiments are burned up.

The 3rd age, the eternity:

Rev 21:1  And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

New” in the Greek-





Of uncertain affinity; new (especially in freshness; while G3501 is properly so with respect to age): – new.

First” in the Greek is:




Contracted superlative of G4253; foremost (in time, place, order or importance): – before, beginning, best, chief (-est), first (of all), former.

The word ‘first’ translates as ‘former’..*Bullinger’s note-  first. Greek. former, as Rev_21:4.***

Rev 21:4  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Same Greek word is those 2 verses

The third age, God will rejuvenate the earth and all evil will be done away.


There was an age before, this present age, and the age to come..the eternity.

There was an age before this one….and that is where all the trouble started. Satan tried to take over and he deceived a third of God’s children to follow him (satan)…. that doesn’t necessarily mean the other 2/3 stood for our Father. 7,000 that did not bow to Ba’al (satan) that our Father has reserved, isn’t that many…..

I find these verses interesting and maybe reminiscent of the first earth age IMHO:

Eze 5:1  And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber’s razor, and cause it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee balances to weigh, and divide the hair.

Eze 5:2  Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled: and thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife: and a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

Eze 5:3  Thou shalt also take thereof a few in number, and bind them in thy skirts.

  • 1/3  burn with fire
  • 1/3 smite with the knife
  • 1/3 scatter in the wind

Those set aside, few in number, are bound in the skirt

Skirts” in the Hebrew




From H3670; an edge or extremity; specifically (of a bird or army) a wing, (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap, (of the earth) a quarter, (of a building) a pinnacle: –  + bird, border, corner, end, feather [-ed], X flying, + (one an-) other, overspreading, X quarters, skirt, X sort, uttermost part, wing ([-ed]).

You see the same 4 divisions in these scriptures

Mat 13:1  The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.

Mat 13:2  And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

Mat 13:3  And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;

Mat 13:4  And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

Mat 13:5  Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:

Mat 13:6  And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

Mat 13:7  And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:

Mat 13:8  But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.

Mat 13:9  Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

I find it interesting……

In conclusion… We were all with our Father the first earth age, in spiritual bodies. Satan rebelled and many followed him, but some stood for our Father and stood against satan. Instead of our Father destroying many of his children, He ended that age and started this one, with each entity born innocent through woman, with no memory of what we did then, to make up our minds who we are going to love…. God or satan.

God doesn’t predestine any human to hell before they are even born. That is an awful teaching!! God wishes none to perish and for all to come to repentance.

The one thing God will not let himself know  is who will love him. Love has to generate from within, of our own freewill. If God already knew, he would not make us go through this. We serve a God of love and of fairness. He is not a respecter of persons

This whole age is about salvation…… He would not have gone through all this, planning everything, if it was all predetermined. And this flesh age isn’t the end of it…Praise God for the Millennium!! *another subject for another time….

Hos_6:6  For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

mercy = loving kindness

Our Father wants our love.. He loves us more than one can imagine